are not that bad! A lot of talk about them recently, a lot of it weirdly defensive and annoying, which to be fair is how I'd categorize a lot of the Phish fanbase.
From a sampling of their studio stuff, they're a pretty talented and tasteful group, if a little safe sometimes. Compared to most other jambands, they're geniuses, but only because 99% of the music tagged with that label is hot fucking garbage. Interested to see where they go from here, and I can easily see why some people really dig them.